748 is cleaner than h335. I noticed I could load 748 in my 223 & 308 so I bought a pound of it and was wanting some input on the powder. Winchester 748 is a ball powder and the choice for loading 223 Remington cartridges. The ammo is/was mostly 1919 fodder and performed just fine. Winchester StaBALL 6.5 – Temperature sensitivity test Today we have a look at StaBALL 6.5, a new powder from Winchester. That's a bummer about the heat sensitive since its starting to warm up. 7 102 IMR Co IMR 4320 3 Accurate Arms Nitro 100 53 Alliant Pro Reach 103 Winchester 748 4 Alliant e3 54 Hodgdon LONGSHOT 104 Hodgdon BL-C(2) 5 Hodgdon TITEWAD 55 Alliant 410 105 Hodgdon CFE 223 The Win 760 smokeless ball powder is a spherical powder with a very consistent and reliable burn rate. Keep up-to-date on new products, Winchester 748 I never shoot it when it is hot I start shooting about now on a frequent basis it doesnt get that hot here this time of year. Thanks I just loaded up some more I am one grain below maximuim. Tac is the only ball powder I've used that wasn't very temp sensitive - only for .223-5.56 on a progressive otherwise it's Varget/Benchmark for.223 , and straight varget for .35 rem and 308. Best used in cases where you can fill them up. I have loaded BL-C(2) in both my .30-06 and my .308 but have not used Winchester 748. It is temperature sensitive. It shoots great now (60 degrees) can I expect the same groups when it gets cold out. Scoobysmak. Is this powder real temperature sensative or is it pretty stable? Only thing is don't work up maximum loads in cool temperatures and shoot the same load in hot summertime. YMMV RWJ. Cordite, which was the common propellant at the time Rigby designed the case, was extremely sensitive to pressure fluctuations brought on by a change in temperature. It is also ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 458 Winchester Magnum. ... Watch out for the 748 it is pretty temperature sensitive and a load that is close to max but showing no real pressure signs on a just above freezing winter match day will be way to hot on hot summer day. My preferred powders where temperature variation … 3.225" Starting Load 52.0gr. This is my second 223 reload test, weather was cold, windy and wet at times. My Tikka is really shooting great using winchester 748. According to the Hodgdon data site, I am 1.5 grains under the max load for this powder/bullet combination as well as .055 longer on OAL. Use WLR or Federal 210 primers ONLY with this stuff! I currently use H4350 in my 30.06, with 180 gr bullets, but the price of 760 keeps making me want to try it. In common hunting cartridges used to hunt big game within 400 yards or so, such as the .270 Winchester and .30-06 Springfield, extreme temperatures don't have enough effect, even on temperature-sensitive gunpowders, to cause you to miss a deer. Both will work at low temps and high temps. The low flame temperature of 748 extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powders. drummer007: Hello all, I’m new to the forum and a club 6mm ppc shooter. #2325684 - 11/07/12 11:55 PM Winchester 748! Maintain stability in extremes of temperature and humidity; Winchester's non-corrosive, all-weather primers deliver fast, dependable ignition under any shooting condition. W748 will be just fine for what you are looking for. The low flame temperature of 748 extends barrel life versus other similar speed powders. Temperature when I worked up the load was 38 … I've ran W 748 in the 338/06 with 250 grainers ... but I've found it to be very temperature sensitive. Ammo Deals: Winchester 748 Smokeless Powder, 4lb (4 Units) $93.96 FREE S&H CODE Ammoland Inc. Posted on December 10, 2020 January 5, 2021 by F Riehl, Editor in Chief In order to be effective in the tropical heat of India and Africa, Rigby over-designed the case size, to keep the pressures low in the extreme heat, for reliable extraction in a dangerous game situation. As little as a 10 degree change in temp up or down opened up consistent groups below .5" @100 to over 1.5 inches @ 100 on several outings. It is also ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 458 Winchester Magnum. The Official Predator Masters Search Engine. Should be a very accurate load. How temperature sensitive is it?? Hornady SX bullets. It is ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 308 Winchester, and up to 485 Winchester Magnum. Mike Well it’s a double based ball powder so it’s going to be more temperature sensitive! The powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition, 748 is ideal for a wide range of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 485 Winchester Magnum. A medium speed propellant, 748's lower flame temperature extends barrel life when compared to similar speed powders. It also shoots H335 good but not as good very close though. I then repeated the test using the same targets.Total test took about 1 hour. Its main selling point is that it's supposed to be insensitive to temperature swings, so testing that is the topic of this video. H4350 goes for $32.99 CDN,/pd while Win 760 is $26.99/pd. It’s not like they (Virgil and the shooters at the warehouse) didn’t have n133 or h322. tayous1 Replies: 0 Views: 59 1/14/2021 1:13 AM Talk to me about the sizing die? Burning rate is similar to 4064, Varget or RL-15, but more temperature sensitive. It is almost ideal for .308 Winchester and .30-30. Green = IMR Enduron Powders Red = Winchester Powders 1 Norma R1 51 Alliant Blue Dot 101 HodgdonVARGET 2 Vihta Vuori N310 52 Accurate Arms No. The Winchester 760 has ideal flow characteristics and is not sensitive to temperature. 748 is very dirty powder, and temperature sensitive. If you are trying to push the ragged edge of pressure hot and cold weather loads will need to be made. How about your most accurate Winchester 748 load in the .223 / 5.56 x 45? The powder I have is winchester 748 and I have read that it can be temperature sensitive. I hear varget is very good but seems to be dried up in my area so I got the 748 and going to give it a try. H335 also had this bad rap for having problems in extreme temps. It is rumored to be temperature sensitive, so that’s one thing to consider/ confirm. ammunition. To you concern, about groups opening up in cold weather, I have not seen that in this 308 Win load. All powders have a tendency to get more 'explosive' in hot weather and especially if they are left in the direct sun or in a hot vehicle... 748 will keep you happy year 'round. Personally neither of these powders have ever given me a problem. Loads fired in the cold of winter will be noticeably hotter in the summer months. hanker71. It provides for a great velocity with the trusted performance of Winchester. I used 5 targets (one per load at 100 yards, 1 five shot group on each target using Hornady 55gr SP/c and Winchester 748 25.6, 25.8, 26.0, 26.2, and 26.4 grains. I wore out one .223, shooting 28.3 gr. It is said that this reloading powder is ideal for home reloads due to ease of use. Yes Win 748 works very well for heavy weight .223 bullets. And it ran them out at 3450 fps. Temp difference of upwards of 90 degrees. My results are quite similar between the Hodgdon, Alliant, and IMR powders. What's your most accurate .308 / 7.62 x 51 load using Winchester 748? ... WW748 can be temperature sensitive, especially in hot weather - watch storage conditions and sun heating. Winchester 748 is a ball powder and the choice for loading 223 Remington cartridges. My testing from 20F to 85F has clearly favored the Hodgdon powders as to temperature stability with my various rifles/loads. Winchester 748 was accurate and clean burning in my 16” 6.5 Grendel. What are it's advantages/disadvantages?? ... People use newer powders because they often are less temperature sensitive or have additives that lower copper build up like CFE223. I stopped using it along with WW760 (H414), & WW785. It shoots great, I do most of my hunting in sub zero weather I just don't want the groups opening up or the zero changing. I'm having good results with Winchester 748, both in accuracy and velocity consistency. I'd stay away from 748 myself, Reloader 15 @39.6 grains is what I would use. That group is very nice!! Case volume appears to be the same as Winchester or Federal brass. It is a great all year round powder. Many new powders are … My question involves Winchester 748 and 6mm ppc. As mentioned above don't let your rounds bake in the sun. I tended to reduce my loads almost 10% for this reason. The low-flame temperature extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powder. I went to the loading data in the Lyman book and for the 150 grain jacketed XLC bullet in a .30-06 round it shows a starting charge of 48.5 gr for the BL-C(2) which yields a … So is there any load data for Winchester Super handicap for handguns or rifle? It is ideal for a wide variety of centerfire rifle loads, including 222 Remington, 30-30 Winchester, 30 Winchester, and up to 485 Winchester Magnum. Is it sensitive? ... Winchester 748 0.366" C.O.L. trends and tips from the leader in reloading. Temperatures ran from -20, fox hunting, to over 100 in dog towns, w/o any problems. Not the best choice in .30-'06, as it doesn't tolerate more than 10% airspace. all powders are temp sensative, ball powders more so than extruded, all winchester powder is ball powder. Im new to the reloadi family. 748 is the powder of choice for 223 Remington ammunition. It is somewhat temperature sensitive and maybe just a little more sensitive than some other powders in .223 . I also tried to keep my ammo … 6.5 stabal was designed for the 6.5 creedmoor a lot of Ar competitors use to use 748 … tayous1. What gives? Where I hunt the temperature could be in the 50's or way below zero. It is very cold right now where I am, and I will probably shoot a lot in summer when it is very hot. 748 748 is the powder of choice by Winchester and the U.S. military for 5.56mm and 223 Rem. The low-flame temperature extends barrel life compared to other similar speed powder. Scoobysmak Replies: 1 Views: 116 1/13/2021 11:38 PM Derek45 223 case trim question. 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