IU Source always." I don't see why Nihilus doesn't drain, though I wouldn't be surprised if there's evidence Valkorion is immune. Darth Nihilus was proficient in the use of both Dark Healing and Drain Force applications (Knights of the Old Republic: Campaign Guide). It's not relevant to a battle when discussing their actual feats and you could apply the same logic to either. Being weakened is completely irrelevant when regarding someones ability to preform a ritual, as it pertains to their knowledge, not their power. ", Source: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. >"and his tutaminis (or force field) can block lightsaber strikes." Valkorian outclasses him in every regard. For those of you who have read Tales of the Jedi, Sever Force is a light-sided power, not a dark-sided one as Force Drain is. @jacensolo77: Again, Ad Nauseum, stop repeating already refuted claims. Let me clarify, rituals are never by product of ones individual power, rather their knowledge to preform that ritual. Both Nihilus and Vitiate were extremely powerful Sith lords who both were responsible for many deaths. Vitiate technically could kill Sidious, because he has no resistance to life drain (I can argue this all day). He devoured Traya's connection to the force, leaving her completely weakened. It's like if I said Valkorion could kill Sidious if he drained 5 more planets. Now at this point I grow tired from addressing the same nonsensical bullshit I did literally a week ago. Because sidious did what they could not, and you highly underestimate the power of sidious. Als einer von wenigen überlebte er schwer verletzt die Kriege und widmete sich daraufhin dem Studium der Dunklen Seite. Otherwise this is a casual affair for the most interesting man in the world. Which likely means that it only rejuvenates him, not necessarily make him stronger than ever. Vitiate can also overwhelm several Jedi Knights and Masters with Force Storm and energy attacks, a feat solidly beyond Nihilus' abilities, and his tutaminis (or force field) can block lightsaber strikes. @wollfmyth209: @azronger: Do you think he knows the technique to resist Force Drain? Furthermore OOU sources are canon fact, in universe sources are from fallible characters. Anyways, I'll address the actual proper argumentative person soon as I as well have studies and finals soon. Peace chimp. Okay then, appeal to probability, burden of poof, etc. Raven's closest friend and fiercest enemy at different times of his path, … I notice several contradictions in your argument btw. It's why when he was tricked into trying to feed on the planet Telos, he recoiled since the planet was still mostly dead thanks to Darth Malak bombarding the planet years earlier, leaving very, very little life left. "The Sith Emperor, as Vitiate became known, was later able to perform the ritual on his own with his incredible strength in the Force, though he required a sacrifice—the simultaneous deaths of thousands—in order to begin the Sith magic." 10/10 debating skills, mate. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well. Nihilus also required worlds with strong Force energy, otherwise the backlash of the attempt would weaken him. [1]" This literally addressed Ziost LOL. Vitiate literally only can do shit via rituals LOL, ELABORATE. But I am enjoying the sh!t-show. one-shotting a character who overpowered the above character and virtually ragdolling him. Well someone's getting banned. On the other hand, Drain seems to ignore one's Force power, given that it can be used on far more powerful opponents. I honestly have no idea why are you so impressed with Nihilus. Fuck outta here. @frankenmidget: I'd argue he potentially could be. Every one of them. He could easily lift vitiate and throw him into the sun lol. All he cared about was consumption of life, and everyone knew this. DRAW (ALL) Jedi to one planet, and distract them with a large number of Sith on the surface. His power was so great that he himself was a danger to every living thing that surrounded him. Palpatine (in my opinion) is the most powerful Sith so he should be able to resist the force drain and take him down. So no he isn't all powerful as SWTOR fans will have you believe. Er hoffte, in den alten Sith-Monumenten Rat … All the moves he showcases can be done more effectively by lot more competent force wielders that don't need to be disembodied. Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sidious # Darth Sidious Darth Nihilus struggles against people with similar if not superior power to his own. Nihilus also has better force lift feats as well, not to mention all of Nihilus feats were preformed pre prime by a massive margin. He did it and killed billions of force sensitives and the remaining JEDI ORDER! Regardless of the disparity present between them, Revan is the better of the two, and that’s my point. @azronger: Planetary means it literally kills an entire planet(like, destroying it), killing all life on a planet is more of a multi-continental range thing, tbh. And Darth Nihilus doesn't have a physical form anymore. But keep it up, it's quite entertaining. Last word being the key word. Feel lucky I even addressed you proper? Nihilus used Sever Force, not Force Drain. All you did was give CV's worst debating post and show that you can't even read properly. "TK feats aren't relevant unless you can establish that they're better than scaling massively above draining a planet.". As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. You're the dishonest rate here son. You say that Vitiate got so much stronger by draining planets which he did, but the same goes for Nihilus, so the argument is trash to start with. Forgive me if I'm not impressed. Hands down the greatest Sith of all time, Darth Vitiate was one of the galaxies most feared and dangerous threats. Bump. Vitiate's planet-wide Death field didn't consume him, so he's confirmed to know Drain resistance to a planet-wide level. Forum Posts. YOU ARE WRONG. It's not sever force. Here Valkorion has a body; he doesn't exist as a disembodied spirit. @ysmir: OOU Source>IU Source. Has Vitiate done anything similar with telekinesis? HE CAN EAT PLANETS FOR DINNER! Now at this point I grow tired from addressing the same nonsensical bullshit I did literally a week ago. It's becoming even more apparent due to the fact that Inquisitor seems to have forgotten 'Force walk' that alone should have silence Valk. Ziost was done without a ritual you moron. And so on. Because one he is original character (meaning he consumed force before EAWare thought it was cool to jump on bandwagon and copy with their horrible character Vitiate/Valkorian whatever he now calls himself, idk) created by Obsidian. Ripping out a million tonned+ object from a gravity well and being able to sustain it at massively faster than light speeds with absolute ease. Because he did it with his own power, he did it in with a gesture? "Maybe this made sense in your world but it certainly didn't in mine. LMAO. Still, could part of his immunity have been part of being an incorporeal being at the time? But Valkorion has other powers and just a better mastery of the Force to give him the win everytime. Even if you are right, Nihilus also has displayed feats beyond Yoda and the likes by a massive degree. To block a Jedi from the Force—even a Dark Jedi—is a terrible thing. Where was this stated in the rules? also note that the outlander also used his very own drain against him. Okay then, appeal to probability, burden of poof, etc. Go cry liberal. "He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings… or the Jedi. Also any statements or instances of Vitiate draining a planet without a ritual? >Demands the opposition be polite and civil. He bombarded them then drained them after (ie: he didn't use machines to drain them). When has Anakin mace or Yoda done any of the sort LOL. @zapan871: @amethystgravity: @frankenmidget: It is sustained by your will, but it will try to consume you as well. That and I find it hard to believe that [player character] Nox needs 'help' to cast torrents of force lightning to annihilate 'special snowflake and plot bad armour' Arcann. @ysmir: Again, Ad Nauseum, stop repeating already refuted claims. It feeds on their connection to the force.. Also any power he gained was because Revan needed to run around like a blind puppy and use the ritual to bring him back from the verge of death (another terrible plot). So Darth Nihilus is, at best, approaching or rivaling *some* of the ancient Sith, which Vitiate is the most powerful of, by virtue of his superiority to KotOR Revan, who a superior of Darth Malak, who is likewise “far” more powerful than Exar Kun, who destroyed Freedon Nadd (spirit) who was (reportedly) far more powerful than Naga Sadow. @ysmir: And flagged for trolling and using inflammatory language. The fight takes place in an abandoned Jedi Temple. I'll take your immediate concession for Ad hominem appeal to probability and ad nuasum. you guys do realize that just because he resisted his OWN drain-that doesn't make him immune to it, right? WHICH IS ELABORATE. I've got some news for you pal, Nihilus is weak as hell compared to Vitiate. I'll take my uncontested win against every opposition. And lol, he never needed to bombard planets to drain them, that makes no sense within the context of his power and the descriptions by Visas Marr. - Source: Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side. Yeah, he drained Ziost in the span of minutes, affecting the planet's outer core and destroying all life on it, without a ritual (As explicitly noted by the codex). ... 1 Darth Vitiate. It be almost amusing to see Valk try and mind game his way out of that one. 3 Can Beat: Darth Malak. @ysmir: I am not getting banned, less he gets banned for the same LOL. Regardless, Vitiate never preformed the feat either, both where stated but never done, and at their strongest Nihilus would mop the floor with him, and Nihilus was approaching his strongest before he got massively weakened 3 times on the ravager. it was his own attack. Regardless it's not relevant to this battle given Nihilus never reached that level of power. My scaling so far goes Valkorion >/= Sidious = Yoda > Mace (very small gap) >/= KF Vader (the gap is pretty small) > Outlander/unchained Vaylin > Revan, but I don't have it set in stone. Krayt wasn't using a Dark Field at all(given the explanation of that technique); he just tried to drain Abeloth's essence. They were right when they said you comicvine goons were retarded as all hell. Man I should go back to discord LMFAO. Also Valk doesn't use force drain. @frankenmidget: @wollfmyth209: He is canonically immune to planet-level drain. Mace to Revan it's a very small gap, with Mace being somewhat more powerful than Vader but Outlander/unchained Vaylin/Revan all being pretty close together. Apart from Vitiate and Sidious only "wounds in the force" can combat Nihilus (like the Jedi Exile). Do you think I'm giving Vaylin and the Outlander too much credit, or not enough? Also idk how literally seeing and hearing the event=false in this context, you literally just on the basis that characters can be wrong are invalidating a first hand statement from a primary source. @zapan871: The Book of the Sith states when you're using a Death Field, it will try to consume the user as well. Forever and always. Darth Nihilus, or rather the man who would become him, was a mere shell of a man after the Mandalorian Wars. Darth Traya hinted that it was only a matter of time that Darth Nihilus would self … So your argument is that Nihilus is a better written character? Vitiate was gonna destroy the galaxy with the ritual? The more powerful someone is with the force the greater his power is to consume them. Vitiate's complete destruction of his world was more impressive because while Nihilus' destruction left a void in the force, the destruction of Nathema left nothing. Please tell me how they are comparable by the way, this unchained dude (How the fuck did yall play swotor and learn the lore?). "Appeal to authority is a common type of fallacy, or an argument based on unsound logic. Vitiate simply didn't accomplish the same level of feat. Also getting really tired of reading people that have only played SWTOR and try and pass off Vitiate/Valk as some god character with a deep plot. Seeing as the servers have crashed, I decided I may as well roll out Round 5. I am denying the existence of that statement to start with so you really haven't even gotten anywhere. Let me know in the comments below! And no, shutting of an engine from space isn't even comparable. Darth Nihilus developed a strange hunger for force energy after surviving the mass shadow... For me the Sith Emperor Lord Vitiate is the strongest and most powerful Sith I've come across in the Starwars universe. Or do you have a source. 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No, with Nihilus it is relevant because his feats actually are derived from his own ability rather than a ritual. Maybe this made sense in your world but it certainly didn't in mine. So LLLLLLLL. >Desecrating Ziost was performed without a ritual while weakened. That argument is trash and isn't substantiated in any medium. My argument is that Vitiate/Valk isn't anything special. Anyways, it probably should let him win this battle. I don't even know what you're addressing. Darth Nihilus, he would devour Revan dead in seconds. Since that's the only advantage Nihilus has. "This technique blinds your enemy to the Force with a wall of light, a permanent blockage if you so choose, rendering him unable to use Jedi powers. And lol, he never needed to bombard planets to drain them, that makes no sense within the context of his power and the descriptions by Visas Marr. Yeah gonna start crying because I said rape? But both have been resisted before. Darth Nihilus. Nihilus telekinetically ripping a 1200 meter centurion-class battlecruiser out of a gravity well is one of the greatest telekinetic feats in the SW mythos. -----2. Nihilus way cooler than Biowares attempt at copying the world wiping monster trope that Oblivion pulled off wonderfully. "He did it not with weapon or machines" Roughly was the statement by her if you ask her about her master and planet to the point where you get this dialogue. Also him being weakened is irrelevant it was a ritual which wouldn't logical make a difference if he was or not, not to mention again, it wouldn't even work. I hope I didn't stutter. Get lost LMFAO. Pure comedy. @ysmir: I'm not referring to Nathema lol, that was centuries before Vitiate's prime. A powerful Jedi can block a Force-user's access to the Force, preventing them from accessing Force skills or Force feats. Wikis are notoriously unreliable and you using one in a debate is laughable. So it would be a battle of wills. They devastate and consume entire worlds with a thought... Average beings stand no chance of stopping these ultra-powerful monsters of the dark side. [2] Upon the ritual's completion, the Sith magic expanded across the globe as a wave of energy[4] and literally stripped the Force from the targeted planet[1] in less than a minute,[4]killing all living beings instantly and transferring their life force and power into Vitiate. I've got some news for you pal, Nihilus is weak as hell compared to Vitiate. Check it. There, that emphasised enough for your small brain to handle. ", Source: Jedi vs Sith: The Essential Guide to the Force. Visas was at the sight of the entire event. But now, for the Final Round: Darth Nihilus vs Lord Vitiate (AKA The Emperor). Thanks again everyone, my head-canon for this story was that Visas was killed, along with Mandalore on the Ravager when she pledged herself Nihilus (she falls when she goes to face him on the Ravager) - because Nihilus commands that she kill them to prove her loyalty. If he goes for TK, Valkorion will be in trouble, as Nihilus has some of the most insane TK feats in the mythos. "OOU Source>IU Source always." I don't see why Nihilus doesn't drain, though I wouldn't be surprised if there's evidence Valkorion is immune. Darth Nihilus was proficient in the use of both Dark Healing and Drain Force applications (Knights of the Old Republic: Campaign Guide). It's not relevant to a battle when discussing their actual feats and you could apply the same logic to either. Being weakened is completely irrelevant when regarding someones ability to preform a ritual, as it pertains to their knowledge, not their power. ", Source: Knights of the Old Republic II: The Sith Lords. >"and his tutaminis (or force field) can block lightsaber strikes." Valkorian outclasses him in every regard. For those of you who have read Tales of the Jedi, Sever Force is a light-sided power, not a dark-sided one as Force Drain is. @jacensolo77: Again, Ad Nauseum, stop repeating already refuted claims. Let me clarify, rituals are never by product of ones individual power, rather their knowledge to preform that ritual. Both Nihilus and Vitiate were extremely powerful Sith lords who both were responsible for many deaths. Vitiate technically could kill Sidious, because he has no resistance to life drain (I can argue this all day). He devoured Traya's connection to the force, leaving her completely weakened. It's like if I said Valkorion could kill Sidious if he drained 5 more planets. Now at this point I grow tired from addressing the same nonsensical bullshit I did literally a week ago. Because sidious did what they could not, and you highly underestimate the power of sidious. Als einer von wenigen überlebte er schwer verletzt die Kriege und widmete sich daraufhin dem Studium der Dunklen Seite. Otherwise this is a casual affair for the most interesting man in the world. Which likely means that it only rejuvenates him, not necessarily make him stronger than ever. Vitiate can also overwhelm several Jedi Knights and Masters with Force Storm and energy attacks, a feat solidly beyond Nihilus' abilities, and his tutaminis (or force field) can block lightsaber strikes. @wollfmyth209: @azronger: Do you think he knows the technique to resist Force Drain? Furthermore OOU sources are canon fact, in universe sources are from fallible characters. Anyways, I'll address the actual proper argumentative person soon as I as well have studies and finals soon. Peace chimp. Okay then, appeal to probability, burden of poof, etc. Raven's closest friend and fiercest enemy at different times of his path, … I notice several contradictions in your argument btw. It's why when he was tricked into trying to feed on the planet Telos, he recoiled since the planet was still mostly dead thanks to Darth Malak bombarding the planet years earlier, leaving very, very little life left. "The Sith Emperor, as Vitiate became known, was later able to perform the ritual on his own with his incredible strength in the Force, though he required a sacrifice—the simultaneous deaths of thousands—in order to begin the Sith magic." 10/10 debating skills, mate. And when the Jedi are dead, he will feed on the galaxy, the Republic, and eventually, consume the Sith as well. Nihilus also required worlds with strong Force energy, otherwise the backlash of the attempt would weaken him. [1]" This literally addressed Ziost LOL. Vitiate literally only can do shit via rituals LOL, ELABORATE. But I am enjoying the sh!t-show. one-shotting a character who overpowered the above character and virtually ragdolling him. Well someone's getting banned. On the other hand, Drain seems to ignore one's Force power, given that it can be used on far more powerful opponents. I honestly have no idea why are you so impressed with Nihilus. Fuck outta here. @frankenmidget: I'd argue he potentially could be. Every one of them. He could easily lift vitiate and throw him into the sun lol. All he cared about was consumption of life, and everyone knew this. DRAW (ALL) Jedi to one planet, and distract them with a large number of Sith on the surface. His power was so great that he himself was a danger to every living thing that surrounded him. Palpatine (in my opinion) is the most powerful Sith so he should be able to resist the force drain and take him down. So no he isn't all powerful as SWTOR fans will have you believe. Er hoffte, in den alten Sith-Monumenten Rat … All the moves he showcases can be done more effectively by lot more competent force wielders that don't need to be disembodied. Darth Nihilus vs Darth Sidious # Darth Sidious Darth Nihilus struggles against people with similar if not superior power to his own. Nihilus also has better force lift feats as well, not to mention all of Nihilus feats were preformed pre prime by a massive margin. He did it and killed billions of force sensitives and the remaining JEDI ORDER! Regardless of the disparity present between them, Revan is the better of the two, and that’s my point. @azronger: Planetary means it literally kills an entire planet(like, destroying it), killing all life on a planet is more of a multi-continental range thing, tbh. And Darth Nihilus doesn't have a physical form anymore. But keep it up, it's quite entertaining. Last word being the key word. Feel lucky I even addressed you proper? Nihilus used Sever Force, not Force Drain. All you did was give CV's worst debating post and show that you can't even read properly. "TK feats aren't relevant unless you can establish that they're better than scaling massively above draining a planet.". As much as I love SW legends, I personally hate Vitiate because he is just a blatant, lazy copy of Sidious. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. You're the dishonest rate here son. You say that Vitiate got so much stronger by draining planets which he did, but the same goes for Nihilus, so the argument is trash to start with. Forgive me if I'm not impressed. Hands down the greatest Sith of all time, Darth Vitiate was one of the galaxies most feared and dangerous threats. Bump. Vitiate's planet-wide Death field didn't consume him, so he's confirmed to know Drain resistance to a planet-wide level. Forum Posts. YOU ARE WRONG. It's not sever force. Here Valkorion has a body; he doesn't exist as a disembodied spirit. @ysmir: OOU Source>IU Source. Has Vitiate done anything similar with telekinesis? HE CAN EAT PLANETS FOR DINNER! Now at this point I grow tired from addressing the same nonsensical bullshit I did literally a week ago. It's becoming even more apparent due to the fact that Inquisitor seems to have forgotten 'Force walk' that alone should have silence Valk. Ziost was done without a ritual you moron. And so on. Because one he is original character (meaning he consumed force before EAWare thought it was cool to jump on bandwagon and copy with their horrible character Vitiate/Valkorian whatever he now calls himself, idk) created by Obsidian. Ripping out a million tonned+ object from a gravity well and being able to sustain it at massively faster than light speeds with absolute ease. Because he did it with his own power, he did it in with a gesture? "Maybe this made sense in your world but it certainly didn't in mine. LMAO. Still, could part of his immunity have been part of being an incorporeal being at the time? But Valkorion has other powers and just a better mastery of the Force to give him the win everytime. Even if you are right, Nihilus also has displayed feats beyond Yoda and the likes by a massive degree. To block a Jedi from the Force—even a Dark Jedi—is a terrible thing. Where was this stated in the rules? also note that the outlander also used his very own drain against him. Okay then, appeal to probability, burden of poof, etc. Go cry liberal. "He cares nothing for the Sith or its teachings… or the Jedi. Also any statements or instances of Vitiate draining a planet without a ritual? >Demands the opposition be polite and civil. He bombarded them then drained them after (ie: he didn't use machines to drain them). When has Anakin mace or Yoda done any of the sort LOL. @zapan871: @amethystgravity: @frankenmidget: It is sustained by your will, but it will try to consume you as well. That and I find it hard to believe that [player character] Nox needs 'help' to cast torrents of force lightning to annihilate 'special snowflake and plot bad armour' Arcann. @ysmir: Again, Ad Nauseum, stop repeating already refuted claims. It feeds on their connection to the force.. Also any power he gained was because Revan needed to run around like a blind puppy and use the ritual to bring him back from the verge of death (another terrible plot). So Darth Nihilus is, at best, approaching or rivaling *some* of the ancient Sith, which Vitiate is the most powerful of, by virtue of his superiority to KotOR Revan, who a superior of Darth Malak, who is likewise “far” more powerful than Exar Kun, who destroyed Freedon Nadd (spirit) who was (reportedly) far more powerful than Naga Sadow. @ysmir: And flagged for trolling and using inflammatory language. The fight takes place in an abandoned Jedi Temple. I'll take your immediate concession for Ad hominem appeal to probability and ad nuasum. you guys do realize that just because he resisted his OWN drain-that doesn't make him immune to it, right? WHICH IS ELABORATE. I've got some news for you pal, Nihilus is weak as hell compared to Vitiate. I'll take my uncontested win against every opposition. And lol, he never needed to bombard planets to drain them, that makes no sense within the context of his power and the descriptions by Visas Marr. - Source: Book of Sith: Secrets from the Dark Side. Yeah, he drained Ziost in the span of minutes, affecting the planet's outer core and destroying all life on it, without a ritual (As explicitly noted by the codex). ... 1 Darth Vitiate. It be almost amusing to see Valk try and mind game his way out of that one. 3 Can Beat: Darth Malak. @ysmir: I am not getting banned, less he gets banned for the same LOL. Regardless, Vitiate never preformed the feat either, both where stated but never done, and at their strongest Nihilus would mop the floor with him, and Nihilus was approaching his strongest before he got massively weakened 3 times on the ravager. it was his own attack. Regardless it's not relevant to this battle given Nihilus never reached that level of power. My scaling so far goes Valkorion >/= Sidious = Yoda > Mace (very small gap) >/= KF Vader (the gap is pretty small) > Outlander/unchained Vaylin > Revan, but I don't have it set in stone. Krayt wasn't using a Dark Field at all(given the explanation of that technique); he just tried to drain Abeloth's essence. They were right when they said you comicvine goons were retarded as all hell. Man I should go back to discord LMFAO. Also Valk doesn't use force drain. @frankenmidget: @wollfmyth209: He is canonically immune to planet-level drain. Mace to Revan it's a very small gap, with Mace being somewhat more powerful than Vader but Outlander/unchained Vaylin/Revan all being pretty close together. Apart from Vitiate and Sidious only "wounds in the force" can combat Nihilus (like the Jedi Exile). Do you think I'm giving Vaylin and the Outlander too much credit, or not enough? Also idk how literally seeing and hearing the event=false in this context, you literally just on the basis that characters can be wrong are invalidating a first hand statement from a primary source. @zapan871: The Book of the Sith states when you're using a Death Field, it will try to consume the user as well. Forever and always. Darth Nihilus, or rather the man who would become him, was a mere shell of a man after the Mandalorian Wars. Darth Traya hinted that it was only a matter of time that Darth Nihilus would self … So your argument is that Nihilus is a better written character? Vitiate was gonna destroy the galaxy with the ritual? The more powerful someone is with the force the greater his power is to consume them. Vitiate's complete destruction of his world was more impressive because while Nihilus' destruction left a void in the force, the destruction of Nathema left nothing. Please tell me how they are comparable by the way, this unchained dude (How the fuck did yall play swotor and learn the lore?). "Appeal to authority is a common type of fallacy, or an argument based on unsound logic. Vitiate simply didn't accomplish the same level of feat. Also getting really tired of reading people that have only played SWTOR and try and pass off Vitiate/Valk as some god character with a deep plot. Seeing as the servers have crashed, I decided I may as well roll out Round 5. I am denying the existence of that statement to start with so you really haven't even gotten anywhere. Let me know in the comments below! And no, shutting of an engine from space isn't even comparable. 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